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		<title>Obtaining proper home improvement permits is the only way to go</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first entered the real estate business in 1993 it was common to find improvements in homes that were completed without a required permit. At the time, it just wasn’t a big deal to move ahead with your basement development without one. Almost everyone did it. In recent years, the failure to obtain proper [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first entered the real estate business in 1993 it was common to find improvements in homes that were completed without a required permit. At the time, it just wasn’t a big deal to move ahead with your basement development without one. Almost everyone did it.</p>
<p>In recent years, the failure to obtain proper permits has become a much bigger deal, and in fact, a point of contention that has caused many residential sale transactions to collapse at the last minute. In instances where the transaction can be salvaged (the seller agrees to obtain and close the required permits and the buyer agrees to complete the purchase), it often involves lots of “jumping through hoops” for homeowners and real estate agents. Occasionally, these hoops are hard, if not impossible to clear in a short period of time.</p>
<p>Let’s not debate whether the government has a place in regulating what we do with our private property. As a real estate agent, I’m likely at least as geeked up about your property rights as you are. Insisting that the government has no place to tell you what to do and refusing to play by the rules may be an example of “cutting off your nose to spite your face” when it comes to the resale value of your home.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/ibp/irc/codes/05-national-building-code.html" target="_blank">Building codes</a> are intended to ensure safe construction standards are met to protect occupants from structural failures, potential fire hazards and electrical shock. When a Saskatoon home owner, or a contractor acting on behalf of a home owner obtains a permit for home improvements they commit to completing the work in accordance with current building codes. Ultimately, they allow access to a qualified inspector who inspects the work and verifies that the improvements meet the code. Where deficiencies exist, the inspector will require adequate repairs before the permit can be closed.</p>
<p>When a potential home buyer discovers that improvements were completed in your home without the required permits, they lose the assurances that the work was done correctly and safely. Even if the buyer is comfortable moving forward on that basis, a lender may refuse to provide financing, or an insurer may refuse to insure the home. On the other hand, if the proper permits were obtained everyone who has an interest in the purchase can have some reasonable measure of confidence that the improvements are durable, valuable, and most importantly, safe. Simply put, your home improvements add more value to your property when they are completed with a permit.</p>
<p>More and more, home buyers who discover missing permits after entering into a conditional purchase agreement are insisting that the proper permits be obtained and closed by the seller before the purchase is completed. In most cases, this is completely possible but it is almost always far more difficult and costly to do after the fact. It’s not something that you want to be doing when you’re trying to coordinate a move.</p>
<p>In a short series of future posts we’ll talk about which home improvements require a permit and how home buyers might discover that your home improvements were completed without one.</p>
<p>Mean time, here’s some b<a href="http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/Community%20Services/Building%20Standards/Permits/Pages/Permits.aspx" target="_blank">uilding permit information from the City of Saskatoon</a> and some e<a href="http://www.saskpower.com/yourbus/build/doc3.shtml" target="_blank">lectrical/gas permit information from SaskPower</a>.</p>
<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a href="http://normfisher.ca/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here</a>. Please feel free to call or email.</p>
<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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		<title>Vermiculite: How it can affect health and resale of your home</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vermiculite is a mica-like mineral mined around the world and used in a variety of products including insulation. Vermiculite mined from the Libby Mine in Montana between 1920 and 1990 is known to contain asbestos, which can cause asbestosis, lung cancer and mesothelioma in people who are exposed to airborne particles. Vermiculite was one of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiculite">Vermiculite</a> is a mica-like mineral mined around the world and used in a variety of products including insulation. Vermiculite mined from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libby,_Montana">Libby</a> Mine in Montana between 1920 and 1990 is known to contain asbestos, which can cause <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestosis">asbestosis</a>, lung cancer and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesothelioma">mesothelioma</a> in people who are exposed to airborne particles.</p>
<p>Vermiculite was one of a number of loose fill insulation products approved for installation under the Canadian Home Insulation Program (CHIP) that provided grants to home owners who improved energy efficiency in their property between 1977 and 1984. <a href="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/index-eng.php">Health Canada</a> believes that vermiculite was installed in approximately 250,000 Canadian homes during that time. There is no information available as to where vermiculite use was most common but I can tell you that I have run across Saskatoon homes containing vermiculite insulation a number of times during my sixteen-year real estate career.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/prod/insulation-isolant-eng.php">Health Canada’s position</a> is this; “If vermiculite-based insulation is contained and not exposed to the home or interior environment, it poses very little risk.” Perhaps this provides some comfort to homeowners who have vermiculite insulation in their home, but in my own experience, the presence of asbestos is a growing concern for home buyers. Asbestos which is contained and undisturbed may never cause you or others in your home health problems but there is some significant likelihood that it could cause problems in completing a home sale when you’re ready to move. Some home buyers may be totally disinterested in purchasing a home that contains such a potentially toxic substance insisting that it be remediated as a condition of the sale, or they may walk away from the deal all together once they know.</p>
<p>It’s important to note that not all vermiculite insulation contains asbestos. If you suspect that you may have vermiculite insulation in your home you should avoid disturbing it. Contact a qualified expert for assistance in obtaining a sample for testing. In Saskatoon, <a href="http://pillartopost.com/">Pillar to Post Home Inspections</a> is qualified to gather samples and they can submit them to a lab on your behalf for testing. Testing costs can vary from one day to the next, but generally, a range of $150-$200 is what you should expect to pay for the service.</p>
<p>If vermiculite is present in your home and it does not contain asbestos, a lab report will be helpful in eliminating the concern that potential buyers for your home may have when you’re ready to sell. If it does contain asbestos, you can decide to remediate now, begin saving for an eventual remediation, or you can choose to leave it and deal with it at the time of sale. Remember though, leaving it until that late stage almost certainly raises significant concerns for your prospective buyer and could derail your sale.</p>
<p>One should probably consider that knowing your home contains asbestos might require you to disclose its presence when you offer the home for sale. The <a href="http://www.teamfisher.com/property-condition-disclosure/">Property Condition Disclosure</a> Statement (PCDS), which is not mandatory for home sellers, but is commonly used in Saskatchewan, has the following question. “To the best of your knowledge does the dwelling contain asbestos or urea formaldehyde insulation?” If you know asbestos exists, you are legally required to answer this question in the affirmative, if you choose to utilize the form. Home buyers are often suspicious of sellers who refuse to complete a PCDS. Even if you choose not to use the form a buyer could argue that disclosure is required based on the potential health implications of asbestos. In any case, professional home inspections are so common that it’s doubtful that vermiculite in your home could escape scrutiny when selling.</p>
<p>Health Canada has some good information online about vermiculite and asbestos including precautionary steps you can take to avoid contaminating your living space if vermiculite containing asbestos is present in your home. Check it out <a href="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/prod/insulation-isolant-eng.php">here</a>.</p>
<p>Related posts: <a href="http://www.teamfisher.com/asbestos-in-the-home/">Asbestos in the home</a>.</p>
<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a href="http://www.teamfisher.com/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here.</a> Please feel free to call or email.</p>
<p>Real estate geeks can follow our daily updates on Twitter <a href="http://www.twitter.com/norm_fisher">@norm_fisher</a>.</p>
<p>Our Saskatoon home search tool offers MLS listings represented by all real estate brands, presented with more detail than you’ll find anywhere else. Check it out <a href="http://www.teamfisher.com/search-saskatoon-homes-for-sale/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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		<title>Asbestos in the home</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citizens of Canada’s are no strangers to asbestos problems. Used throughout the 20th century as a prominent building material and insulator, health hazards related to asbestos has affected millions worldwide. Highly regarded for its qualities as heat and fire resistant, homes, buildings, and other products built before 1980 could still contain asbestos materials. If you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizens of Canada’s are no strangers to asbestos problems. Used throughout the 20th century as a prominent building material and insulator, health hazards related to asbestos has affected millions worldwide. Highly regarded for its qualities as heat and fire resistant, homes, buildings, and other products built before 1980 could still contain asbestos materials.</p>
<p>If you are a potential homeowner or are seeking to remodel an older home, exposure can cause many health concerns for you and your family. If you are interested in living in a safe, healthy environment, free of health damaging materials, here is some information to get you on that track.</p>
<p>Asbestos exposure can cause a debilitating lung ailment known as <a href="http://www.asbestos.com/">mesothelioma</a>. This asbestos-related illness is one of the hardest for physicians to diagnose for a variety of reasons. The disease typically has a latency period lasting anywhere from 20 to 50 years when it has already reached its later stage of development. Its symptoms also resemble many of other less serious conditions. <a href="http://www.asbestos.com/treatment/">Mesothelioma treatment</a> is usually limited to a handful of procedures and results vary from patient to patient. If your home or jobsite has had asbestos removed, exposure may have occurred previously and receiving a medical checkup is of the upmost importance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/environ/asbestos-amiante-eng.php">Health Canada</a> offers assistance and information in the prevention, disposal and removal of asbestos. They are federally responsible for helping citizens maintain and improve health at home and the work place. Homeowners should not disturb any suspected asbestos themselves as this makes its fibers airborne. The inspection and removal of toxic substances must be performed by licensed abatement contractors who are trained in handling dangerous materials. They work under provincial and federal regulations to ensure no health concerns arise from improper removal.</p>
<p>Once the area is asbestos free, environmentally sustainable materials should be considered including cotton fiber, cellulose and lcynene, water based spray polyurethane foam that can reduce energy costs annually. With the constant growth in technology, there is absolutely no need for health damaging materials such as asbestos.</p>
<p>Click for a larger image displaying potential problem areas for asbestos in the home.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.asbestos.com/images/asbestos_house_diagram.gif" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-1459];player=img;"><img src="/images/teamblog/asbestos.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="500" height="434" align="middle" /></a></p>
<p>A qualified home inspector can often detect the presence of asbestos and other potentially dangerous products that may have been used in home construction over the years. Put &#8220;healthy living environment&#8221; for your family at the top of your &#8220;wants and needs&#8221; list when shopping for a new home.</p>
<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a title="Contact TeamFisher" href="/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here</a>. Please feel free to call or email.</p>
<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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		<title>May I ask why you&#8217;re selling?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Found by way of Larry Yatkowski, author of the world renowned Yatter Matters blog in his recent post, &#8220;Is an anus a patent defectt?&#8221; Larry covers the Vancouver real estate market in a way you&#8217;ll appreciate. Thanks for this little gem Larry! I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of my [...]]]></description>
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<p>Found by way of Larry Yatkowski, author of the world renowned <a href="http://www.yattermatters.com/">Yatter Matters blog</a> in his recent post, &#8220;<a href="http://www.yattermatters.com/real-estate/is-an-anus-a-patent-defect/">Is an anus a patent defectt?</a>&#8221; Larry covers the Vancouver real estate market in a way you&#8217;ll appreciate. Thanks for this little gem Larry!</p>
<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a title="Contact TeamFisher" href="/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here</a>. Please feel free to call or email.</p>
<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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		<title>Tips for buying a home in a hot Saskatoon real estate market</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cass poses a question in another post regarding the hot Saskatoon real estate market. By the time I finished my response I realized that I had written a whole new post so I brought it up front for the rest of you. If any of my real estate friends have something to add I would [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Cass poses a question in <a href="/saskatoon-home-prices-see-significant-rise-in-january-2007/"><span style="color: #800080;">another post regarding the hot Saskatoon real estate market</span></a>.<span> </span>By the time I finished my response I realized that I had written a whole new post so I brought it up front for the rest of you.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">If any of my real estate friends have something to add I would really appreciate your input and I’m sure Cass would as well.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Cass said: My husband and I have put offers on 3 different houses and 2 were in bidding wars.  The last house we offered $7,000 over asking price and the house went for $26,000 over asking.  This house had a basement suite and the buyer came in and paid cash and is most likely using it as full revenue property.  This is the 2nd house we lost due to another buyer using it as revenue property.  Can you please give us some advice on how a young married couple with a baby on the way is supposed to compete in a market like this?  It tends to be very frustrating and discouraging when the houses in our price range are being scooped up by investors, as there isn&#8217;t too many decent houses on the east side for around the $200,000 mark.  We are fully aware and prepared to place an offer over asking, but how can you compete with someone paying cash?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Norm said:<span> </span>Cass, thanks for stopping. Cash sounds pretty impressive but when I&#8217;m reviewing offers it only goes so far with me. The seller is not normally very concerned with how the home is being financed.  However, cash offers do often come forward without any conditions attached and the thought of having a good offer completed right now is very attractive to most sellers. One of our sellers just accepted an unconditional offer which was $4,000 lower than the second best. They see some value in knowing that the sold sign goes up right now and that there aren&#8217;t going to be issues that have to be sorted out.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Perhaps you could see your mortgage person and tell them that you want to write your next offer without a finance condition. If that person can assure you that you&#8217;re good for $225,000 for instance there is probably little risk in eliminating that condition.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Request and review the Property Condition Disclosure up front. It&#8217;s always a good idea to ask your agent to &#8220;incorporate&#8221; the disclosure but if you view the statement prior to writing, you don&#8217;t need to include it as a condition.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">The biggest gamble is the home inspection. Do you have the guts to write an offer that is not subject to an inspection?  It&#8217;s a tough call but the truth is that it&#8217;s rare that significant problems are found. Most commonly we see busted furnaces, grade issues, and other items which are relatively easy fixes. I don&#8217;t ever feel good about suggesting a buyer not have a property inspected, but the fact is this one is always a big concern for sellers, even those who are confident in their property. Do you have someone who could help you do a cursory inspection of a property prior to writing an offer? If you can&#8217;t get around this gamble, you might consider writing the home inspection condition in a different way which would allow you to back out if major problems are discovered but also provides the seller with assurance that you aren&#8217;t going to nickel and dime. &#8220;This offer is subject to a professional inspection of the property to determine structural integrity of the improvements. The buyer agrees that they shall have no right to rescind this offer for discovery of defects which do not exceed (insert amount here) in repair costs.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Conditions like &#8220;satisfactory gas line inspection&#8221; or &#8220;review of local bylaws,&#8221; etc are bound to doom your offer. Do your homework in advance.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Scrape together as much money as you can for a deposit and show the seller your good faith. A $10,000 is a strong sign and it&#8217;s totally appropriate in this market.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Try writing the seller a personal note to include with your offer. Let them know who you are and how much you love their home. Tell them that you are very confident in the house (if you are) and how much you look forward to raising your family there. Ask them, &#8220;Is there anything else which we can do to have you favour our offer? We are open to discussing ways in which we can come to agreement. We really want to make your house our family&#8217;s home. We are available at a moment&#8217;s notice to address any concerns which you may have.&#8221;  Place the note in an envelope with the seller&#8217;s name on it and enclose it with the offer in another envelope.  Have your agent deliver it to the house when offers are presented. Go with him. Wait outside in the car. Be sure that the seller&#8217;s agent knows you are there; ready to deal with issues which concern the seller.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">All other things being equal, most sellers would prefer to see their home go to a family instead of an investor. Try to use that to your advantage by giving the seller a little insight into who you are.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana" lang="EN">Good luck.  I really hope you get the next one.</span>
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<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a title="Contact TeamFisher" href="/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here</a>. Please feel free to call or email.</p>
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<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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		<title>Jack Grover released from prison</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Saskatchewan Court of Appeal, Friday, acquitted Saskatoon landlord Jack Grover of obstruction of justice and ordered his immediate release from prison. Grover was convicted of obstruction earlier this year and had served three months of the one year sentence imposed on him in September. The charge resulted from actions Grover allegedly took “to falsify” [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">The <a href="http://www.sasklawcourts.ca/default.asp?pg=court_of_appeal"><span style="color: #800080;">Saskatchewan Court of Appeal</span></a>, Friday, acquitted Saskatoon landlord Jack Grover of obstruction of justice and ordered his immediate release from prison.<span> </span><a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=24516f20-c0f2-4424-87f6-0072d072ea53&amp;k=30139"><span style="color: #800080;">Grover was convicted of obstruction</span></a> earlier this year and had served three months of the <a href="http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/city_province/story.html?id=eb432326-7770-4742-8ef6-df7abaacaac2&amp;k=20737"><span style="color: #800080;">one year sentence imposed on him</span></a> in September.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">The charge resulted from actions Grover allegedly took “to falsify” inspection records which would have indicated that timely property inspections had occurred prior to a fire at his rental property at 214 Avenue E North which killed three-year-old Isabelle Bowron and her infant sister Jordynn in March, 2005.<span> </span>One other adult, Curtis Gifford suffered permanent brain damage from the fire. Jennifer Bowron, mother of the children who perished, along with her three-year-old son William were burned.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">The day after the fire, Grover <a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=65644941-4796-4090-a4cc-5abe626e93af"><span style="color: #800080;">approached the grandmother of the dead children at the hospital</span></a> and asked her to sign inspection records indicating that timely inspections had been performed, as the law requires.<span> </span>She refused.<span> </span>Grover was later charged and <a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/story.html?id=b7597d1c-3a92-47ed-a1e9-131b41dd2b11&amp;k=61042"><span style="color: #800080;">convicted of attempting to falsify records</span></a>.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">In a 2 to 1 ruling, the Court of Appeal concluded that there was “no evidence” that Grover actually knew that the inspections had not been conducted.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Grover has a lengthy history of problems related to his Saskatoon real estate, a portfolio which includes single family homes and apartment buildings.<span> </span>In one five year period over 30 fires were reported at his properties.<span> </span>He’s been convicted of making a false or misleading statement, obstruction of justice, as well as other infractions under the Fire Prevention Act and Saskatoon’s fire bylaws.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Grover claims to be a <a href="http://www.canada.com/globaltv/regina/news/story.html?id=cd2278f6-51de-4167-a3b8-ee735e5568d8&amp;k=37844"><span style="color: #800080;">victim of a fire department conspiracy</span></a> and seems to sincerely believe that the system is just out to get him.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">The first time I ever spoke with Jack Grover he was loudly singing halleluiahs and proclaiming himself a “Christian man.”<span> </span>Such public pronouncements, particularly those expressed during an introduction almost always leave me feeling suspicious and on my guard.<span> </span>He describes himself as a “very, very good man,” yet he seems to have no problem letting his tenants live in poorly maintained firetraps.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana">Will the death of two young children cause Grover to be filled with Christian conviction?<span> </span>Will he turn over a new leaf and work to improve the properties which he owns, for the sake of those unfortunate souls who have few options for housing?</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norm Fisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you’re a fan of “The Colbert Report” you may recall a recent installment of “The Word,” a regular feature on the show where Steven, in talking about the James Frey’s book, A Million Little Pieces defined the Latin term caveat emptor as “Tough Titty.” All kidding aside the literal translation of the term means [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">If you’re a fan of “<a href="http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/index.jhtml">The Colbert Report</a>” you may recall a recent installment of “The Word,” a regular feature on the show where Steven, in talking about the <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Million-Little-Pieces-Oprahs-Book/dp/0307276902/sr=8-1/qid=1164341689/ref=pd_ka_1/701-1779624-2173936?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books">James Frey’s book, A Million Little Pieces</a> defined the Latin term caveat emptor as “Tough Titty.” </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">All kidding aside the literal translation of the term means “let the buyer beware” and in general, it’s the position that the Canadian courts typically take when dealing with actions which arise over property condition disputes between real estate buyers and sellers.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">It’s important to note that the law sees certain types of defects in different ways.<span> </span>The first type of defect is one known as a “patent defect.”<span> </span>A patent defect is one which would be discovered through a reasonably prudent inspection of the property by the buyer, or anyone else who inspects it on behalf of the buyer.<span> </span>The law is very clear that a seller has no duty to disclose such defects.<span> </span>It is assumed that the buyer conducts a reasonable amount of due diligence on their own behalf and would therefore be aware of these defects. The second category of defects is one known as latent defects.<span> </span>A latent defect is one which may not be so obvious to a buyer who is conducting a reasonable prudent inspection of the property.<span> </span>Now, the courts generally sees latent defects in two separate categories, some of which require disclosure by the seller, some of which may not require disclosure.<span> </span>A buyer is always entitled to disclosure of “material latent defects.”<span> </span>Of course, this is where shades of gray come into play but generally the courts consider a defect to be a material latent defect if it meets one of the following criteria.</span></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Renders the property unfit for the purpose for which the buyer is acquiring it where the buyer has made this purpose known to the seller or broker;</span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Finally, the law does not expect a seller to disclose problems which he or she is unaware of and the burden of proof is upon the buyer to prove that the seller had knowledge, or ought to have had knowledge of existing material latent defects.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">The most prudent course of action for any buyer is to make inquiries of the seller on issues of property condition.<span> </span>A seller has a legal duty to not misrepresent and can be held liable for blatant attempts to mislead a buyer.<span> </span>Secondly; a professional inspection of the property by a qualified inspector is a must.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;">Sellers who have property condition issues with a property they wish to sell should be forthright with their real estate broker and their lawyer seeking advise on their duty to disclose.<span> </span>My experience suggests that most condition issues can be dealt with in a reasonable manner if they are brought forward in a timely fashion, before the seller has accepted the buyers offer. <span> </span>If a buyer discovers material defects after possession they are far less amiable at working towards a solution.<span> </span>No wonder.</span></p>
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<p>I’m always happy to answer your Saskatoon real estate questions.  All of <a title="Contact TeamFisher" href="/contact-teamfisher/">my contact info is here</a>. Please feel free to call or email.</p>
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<p>Norm Fisher<br />
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate</p>
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